Explosion en torre pemex df ???

Silverhawk

New Member
Me extraña que tardaron en tanto un abrir un tema sobre este acontecimiento, sobretodo por la intensa actividad que tuvieron los Condores y Relampagos en modalidad de traslado de heridos.

Aver si el buen Helipilot nos platica si anduvo realizando esos intrepidos aterrizajes y despegues en medio de la vil calle.

Tenia rato de no suceder una tragedia de ese tamaño aqui en la capital.

Saludos
 

Puma727

Well-Known Member
Lamentable lo ocurrido ésta tarde en el edificio de PEMEX.
En lo personal, nunca entendí a qué fué Peña, estando aun la contingencia vigente, si ya estaba ahi el Secretario de Gobernación.
Ojalá pronto sepamos qué pudo causar ésta explosión.
QEPD los fallecidos, pronta recuperación a los heridos.
 

Manual FLEX

Active Member
No se descarta nada, sea accidente o atentado: PGR

La Procuraduría General de la República (PGR), no descarta ninguna posibilidad que el siniestro ocurrido en la torre B2, del complejo administrativo de Petróleos Mexicanos (Pemex), sea a consecuencia de un “accidente, imprudencia o algún atentado’’, dijo el abogado de la Nación, Jesús Murillo Karam.

En conferencia de prensa, aseguró que, tras examinar en las últimas horas las estructuras del edificio B2 de la Torre de Pemex, los cuerpos de las víctimas, ropas y otros materiales, puede asegurar que “fuego no hay. Es de las pocas cosas de lo que tenemos certeza”.

“No hay indicios de fuego ni en los cimientos ni en los fallecidos ni en las ropas… Fuego no hay”, dijo el funcionario federal, en conferencia de prensa, a 24 horas de la explosión en el complejo administrativo de la petrolera en la ciudad de México y que dejó por lo menos 33 muertos.

Murillo Karam también rechazó que el siniestro haya sido a causa de una "implosión", pero aclaró que no se descarta ninguna hipótesis y que hay 2,500 peritos de todas las instancias del gobierno federal, de la UNAM y de dos empresas privadas internacionales analizando las evidencias.

Dijo que el área afectada “abarca 1,300 metros” y, desde mediodía, una vez que se rescató el cuerpo de la última víctima, los peritos comenzaron a recabar las pruebas que determinen las causas del siniestro.

http://eleconomista.com.mx/sociedad/2013/02/01/no-se-descarta-nada-sea-accidente-o-atentado-pgr

Buen video desde helicóptero:

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LAMSA por Aerovias Guest

Well-Known Member
Porque tanta hermeticidad? Carajo...

Jamas habia presenciado algo asi, han sucedido cosas graves pero creo que desde hace mucho no veiamos que taparan tanto la informacion. Vamos, ni siquiera un control de los heridos y fallecidos... las pobres familias estuvieron peregrinando por toda la ciudad (Hosp. PEMEX Picacho, Azcapotzalco, Hosp. Angeles, Cruz Roja, SEMEFO) Eso es lo que mas me ha inquietado... ni siquiera a los deudos pueden informar!

Si hay indicios de explosivos, porque no aceptarlo?
 

Bluethunder

New Member
Porque tanta hermeticidad? Carajo...

Jamas habia presenciado algo asi, han sucedido cosas graves pero creo que desde hace mucho no veiamos que taparan tanto la informacion. Vamos, ni siquiera un control de los heridos y fallecidos... las pobres familias estuvieron peregrinando por toda la ciudad (Hosp. PEMEX Picacho, Azcapotzalco, Hosp. Angeles, Cruz Roja, SEMEFO) Eso es lo que mas me ha inquietado... ni siquiera a los deudos pueden informar!

Si hay indicios de explosivos, porque no aceptarlo?

Si es el caso de que hubo explosivos... lo van a tapar por ser el primer atentado contra las intenciones de privatizar Pemex... para seguir diciendo aqui no pasa nada y lo tenemos bajo control...
 

Lufer 777

Well-Known Member
Acaban de sacar con López Doriga que la Torre de pemex no tiene energía eléctrica y las luces de obstrucción están apagadas habrá algún notam ya que creo esta cerca de la aproximación al aicm.
 

cheperp

Member
Lamentable "accidente"...

Aunque no me sorprendería que esto fuese provocado por las acciones que de inicio de sexenio ha tomado Pemex en contra de gasolineros junto a profeco, se sabe que hay muchos "empresarios" en el norte que usan las gasolineras como fachada y eso tiene irritado a más de uno.

Y otra... Hay que recordar que se acaban de descubrir yacimientos importantes en México, por lo que algo debe haber ahí para tomar en cuenta como línea de investigación.

No es conspirativa mi teoría... Pero es casi imposible de creer la causa que han manejado desde el inicio.
 
The Pemex building in Mexico City on Feb. 1
Unconfirmed rumors indicate that an explosive device may have triggered the Jan. 31 explosion in the basement of the headquarters of Petroleos Mexicanos, better known as Pemex, in Mexico City. According to other unconfirmed rumors, two other explosive devices were in the building that did not detonate. If these claims are true, they would finally offer clarity on the blast, which left at least 32 people dead and more than 100 injured. The official position of the Mexican government, as stated by Pemex Director General Emilio Lozoya, remains that the incident appears to have been an accident but that the government is pursuing all lines of investigation.
Though the author of the possible attack is unknown at this point, the event could indicate a range of possible political challenges for the new administration, including criminal intimidation and political infighting. The reform of state-owned Pemex has formed the cornerstone of the administration of newly inaugurated President Enrique Pena Nieto. Mexico's declining oil production and exports have a direct impact on the national budget, which in any given year sources between 30 and 40 percent of its revenue from Pemex. Reforms will aim to increase crude oil and natural gas production for both domestic consumption and export. As a result, for anyone looking to send a clear message to the new administration, Pemex is a natural target.
Analysis
Although Mexico's drug cartels are the most obviously powerful set of violent actors in Mexico, to date they have refrained from terrorist-type tactics. Their operations have remained squarely within the bounds of criminal violence designed to facilitate the business of drugs. Unlike the decision of Colombia's Medellin cartel to engage in politicized violence during the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Mexican drug gangs have largely kept their operations from directly challenging Mexico City. Should the cartels escalate their actions to political violence, it could push the Mexican government to invite U.S. forces into the country to combat the threat, something these criminal organizations wish to avoid. It is possible that the Pena Nieto administration is engaging in back-channel negotiations with one or another of Mexico's criminal groups in an effort to stem the violence, an action that could shift the calculus of cartels. There is no evidence to suggest that such a change has occurred, but if further evidence comes to light suggesting the cartels were involved in the Jan. 31 explosion, it would indicate a significant change in Mexico's political and security situation.
If the explosion was indeed an attack, the more likely explanation may be political infighting. The changes that the Pena Nieto administration wishes to implement will make Pemex more transparent and efficient and will most likely undermine entrenched interests in the company. Notoriously corrupt, Pemex has long been accused of gross inefficiencies and its employees of pervasive graft. As a result, any efficiency reforms to Pemex will likely cause many to lose their privileged access to Pemex funds. This is not to say that the organization is unaware that changes must be made. In fact, the company has attempted in recent years to make a number of changes to increase output. But recent discussions that the new Pemex leadership, appointed by the Pena Nieto administration, will lay off thousands of employees have put new strain on the company and on the leading Institutional Revolutionary Party, which has a close relationship to Pemex union leaders.
Nevertheless, the explosion was very large for a political message stemming from an internal power struggle. It is possible that the explosion was a complete accident -- a natural gas leak or a blown transformer could have caused an explosion of this size. Indeed, many media reports have pointed to Pemex's poor maintenance record as a possible explanation. If that is the case, then the incident may have no significant political implications. However, an attack, as the rumors suggest, would indicate a significant setback in the first months of the Pena Nieto administration.


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Dream Liner

Well-Known Member
The Pemex building in Mexico City on Feb. 1
Unconfirmed rumors indicate that an explosive device may have triggered the Jan. 31 explosion in the basement of the headquarters of Petroleos Mexicanos, better known as Pemex, in Mexico City. According to other unconfirmed rumors, two other explosive devices were in the building that did not detonate. If these claims are true, they would finally offer clarity on the blast, which left at least 32 people dead and more than 100 injured. The official position of the Mexican government, as stated by Pemex Director General Emilio Lozoya, remains that the incident appears to have been an accident but that the government is pursuing all lines of investigation.
Though the author of the possible attack is unknown at this point, the event could indicate a range of possible political challenges for the new administration, including criminal intimidation and political infighting. The reform of state-owned Pemex has formed the cornerstone of the administration of newly inaugurated President Enrique Pena Nieto. Mexico's declining oil production and exports have a direct impact on the national budget, which in any given year sources between 30 and 40 percent of its revenue from Pemex. Reforms will aim to increase crude oil and natural gas production for both domestic consumption and export. As a result, for anyone looking to send a clear message to the new administration, Pemex is a natural target.
Analysis
Although Mexico's drug cartels are the most obviously powerful set of violent actors in Mexico, to date they have refrained from terrorist-type tactics. Their operations have remained squarely within the bounds of criminal violence designed to facilitate the business of drugs. Unlike the decision of Colombia's Medellin cartel to engage in politicized violence during the late 1980s and early 1990s, the Mexican drug gangs have largely kept their operations from directly challenging Mexico City. Should the cartels escalate their actions to political violence, it could push the Mexican government to invite U.S. forces into the country to combat the threat, something these criminal organizations wish to avoid. It is possible that the Pena Nieto administration is engaging in back-channel negotiations with one or another of Mexico's criminal groups in an effort to stem the violence, an action that could shift the calculus of cartels. There is no evidence to suggest that such a change has occurred, but if further evidence comes to light suggesting the cartels were involved in the Jan. 31 explosion, it would indicate a significant change in Mexico's political and security situation.
If the explosion was indeed an attack, the more likely explanation may be political infighting. The changes that the Pena Nieto administration wishes to implement will make Pemex more transparent and efficient and will most likely undermine entrenched interests in the company. Notoriously corrupt, Pemex has long been accused of gross inefficiencies and its employees of pervasive graft. As a result, any efficiency reforms to Pemex will likely cause many to lose their privileged access to Pemex funds. This is not to say that the organization is unaware that changes must be made. In fact, the company has attempted in recent years to make a number of changes to increase output. But recent discussions that the new Pemex leadership, appointed by the Pena Nieto administration, will lay off thousands of employees have put new strain on the company and on the leading Institutional Revolutionary Party, which has a close relationship to Pemex union leaders.
Nevertheless, the explosion was very large for a political message stemming from an internal power struggle. It is possible that the explosion was a complete accident -- a natural gas leak or a blown transformer could have caused an explosion of this size. Indeed, many media reports have pointed to Pemex's poor maintenance record as a possible explanation. If that is the case, then the incident may have no significant political implications. However, an attack, as the rumors suggest, would indicate a significant setback in the first months of the Pena Nieto administration.


FUENTE: http://www.stratfor.com

De ser esa la razón, sería igual a como ya ha sucedido antes tantas veces, como en ferrocarriles hace años o en la generación de electricidad: Al querer el gobierno enderezar el barco, acabar con la corrupción y hacer más productivas a las empresas paraestatales inmeditamente comienza el boicot: Choques de trenes, espuelas de vías movidas intencionalmente para provocar accidentes, maquinas de arrastre destruidas. O en el caso de la electricidad apagones "inexplicables" explosiones de transformadores de potencia, líneas de distribución de alta tensión intencionalmente derrivadas etc.
 
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