Accidente en San Francisco ASIANA AIRLINES 777-28E/ER HL 7742

P-51

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Aqui les dejo un link respecto a otro evento sucedido en 777, aunque con motores rr...lo curioso e interesante es la region de origen, ya que provienen de asia y en esa región debido a la contaminación y a otros efectos meteorologicos es donde mayor número de eventos relacionados con cristales de hielo han sido documentados, estamos en espera de las primeras investigaciones de la ntsb, mientras tanto no podemos asegurar nada mas que solo especular, saludos!!

http://www.aviationtoday.com/mobile/getitem.php?item=28523
 

Ibiza09

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Pues todo estamos ansiosos por saber REALMENTE QUE FUÉ LO QUE SUCEDIÓ EN ESTE ACCIDENTE,lamentable ya la confirmación de los dos muertos de este vuelo de Asiana, sin embargo sería prudente NO CAER EN ESPECULACIONES y apegarnos a lo que los medios mas que nada locales en USA y algunos de buena fuente en México a que nos den información mas veraz y confiable al 100% Saludos a todos los amigos foristas acá en D.F.
 

reinohvp

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Espero que salgan a la luz los videos de la cámaras de seguridad para saber como fue que sucedió el accidente. No vaya a pasar como en El Pentágono en el 9/11 que, misteriosamente, siendo la sede del departamento de defensa de los Estados Unidos, la única cámara de seguridad es una que grababa a 2 cuadros por minuto.
 

dan777

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En CNN están pasando el video del accidente pero no lo encuentro en Youtube, el avión toca tierra se levanta dando un 360 ya sin la cola y vuelve a caer. Se ve impresionante como gira después se pierde entre la nube se polvo :-O
 

jsantillmd10

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Ya dieron reporte preliminar sobre el accidente que segundos antes trataron de ir al aire pero era demasiado tarde lo acabo de ver en FOX NEWS, el reporte fue dado por NTSB.
 

JonMa

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July 7, 2013

Asiana Pilot Called For Go-Around
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By Russ Niles, Editor-in-Chief




A pilot aboard Asiana Flight 214 called for a go-around 1.5 seconds before the tail of the aircraft struck a seawall off the end of Runway 28L and San Francisco International Airport Saturday morning. At a news conference Sunday, NTSB Chairwoman Debra Hersman said the cockpit voice recorder also recorded a crew member calling for more speed seven seconds before the aircraft struck the jetty, tearing off the tail and resulting in the deaths of two passengers. Also, CNN has obtained amateur video of the crash sequenceMeanwhile, airport officials have confirmed the glideslope of the ILS system for Runway 28L at San Francisco International Airport wasn't working at the time of the crash. That means the Boeing 777's autoland system would not have been available to the crew and they would have had only localizer guidance to the runway. Visibility was unlimited and winds were light when the 777 touched down about 1,000 feet before the normal landing point, leaving its horizontal and vertical stabilizers on the threshold before careening off the runway. Two 16-year-old Chinese girls were killed and more than 180 others were hurt, about 50 of them seriously.

A NOTAM issued in June (scroll down to the 19th NOTAM) advises the glideslope will be unavailable until Aug. 23. A pilot familiar with SFO (whose name we agreed not to publish) said the inoperative equipment has challenged many pilots who have grown accustomed to the electronics flying the approach, regardless of the weather. "It can be exciting for an airline crew to have to fly a LOC approach with step downs and everything, after not having done anything but ILSes for the last gazillion approaches," he said.
 

Phillip J fry

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El ntsb esta diciendo que el VREF era de 137 nudos y 7 segundos antes del impacto se les bajo la velocidad significativamente y "y que no fueron algunos nudos lo que se bajo de velocidad" y que intentaron una ida al aire..... Pero le pegaron antes a la pista......

Fuente, entrevista a la directora del ntsb en cnn hace unos momentos...

Rob
 

Phillip J fry

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On Jul 7th the NTSB reported in a press conference at San Francisco Airport, the crew was cleared for a visual approach to runway 28L, the crew acknowledged, flaps were set at 30 degrees, gear was down, Vapp was 137 knots, a normal approach commenced, no anomalies or concerns were raised within the cockpit, 7 seconds prior to impact a crew member called for speed, 4 seconds prior to impact the stick shaker activated, a call to go-around happened 1.5 seconds prior to impact, this data based on a first read out of the cockpit voice recorder. According to flight data recorder the throttles were at idle, the speed significantly decayed below target of 137 knots - the exact value not yet determined -, the thrust levers were advanced and the engines appeared to respond normally. The NTSB confirmed the PAPIs runway 28L were available to the approaching aircraft before the accident, however were damaged in the accident and thus went out of service again. The localizer was available, the glideslope was out of service, according NOTAMs were in effect. There were no reports of windshear and no adverse weather conditions. The air traffic controller was operating normal, no anomaly was effective, until the controller noticed the aircraft had hit the sea wall. The controller declared emergency for the aircraft and initiated emergency response. ARAIB and Asiana personnel have arrived on scene and have joined the investigation. The Mayor of San Francisco reported runway 10L/28R was cleared for service.

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=464ef64f&opt=0

Rob
 

CapAlbert

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On Jul 7th the NTSB reported in a press conference at San Francisco Airport, the crew was cleared for a visual approach to runway 28L, the crew acknowledged, flaps were set at 30 degrees, gear was down, Vapp was 137 knots, a normal approach commenced, no anomalies or concerns were raised within the cockpit, 7 seconds prior to impact a crew member called for speed, 4 seconds prior to impact the stick shaker activated, a call to go-around happened 1.5 seconds prior to impact, this data based on a first read out of the cockpit voice recorder. According to flight data recorder the throttles were at idle, the speed significantly decayed below target of 137 knots - the exact value not yet determined -, the thrust levers were advanced and the engines appeared to respond normally. The NTSB confirmed the PAPIs runway 28L were available to the approaching aircraft before the accident, however were damaged in the accident and thus went out of service again. The localizer was available, the glideslope was out of service, according NOTAMs were in effect. There were no reports of windshear and no adverse weather conditions. The air traffic controller was operating normal, no anomaly was effective, until the controller noticed the aircraft had hit the sea wall. The controller declared emergency for the aircraft and initiated emergency response. ARAIB and Asiana personnel have arrived on scene and have joined the investigation. The Mayor of San Francisco reported runway 10L/28R was cleared for service.

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=464ef64f&opt=0

Rob
Ósea que todo apunta a "Pilot Error"?
 

Rodrigomx

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Datos que se conocen esta noche luego de una conferencia de Asiana en Seúl:

  • El piloto al mando del aparato estaba en entrenamiento.
  • El piloto en cuestión se llama Lee Kang-gook, y tenía solo 43 horas volando el Boeing 777-200ER.
  • Antes fue piloto de 747 por muchos años.
  • El copiloto tenía 3,220 horas volando el 777.
  • Era la primera vez que el piloto intentaba aterrizar un 777 en San Francisco.
 
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SkyHigh

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En uno de los videos de Youtube del audio de Liveatc hay un comentario de que las dos niñas que fallecieron fue por atropello de los servicios de emergencia. No cita fuentes y no he encontrado ningun reporte oficial. De que manera se puede comprobar o descartar esto?
 

Geramador

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En uno de los videos de Youtube del audio de Liveatc hay un comentario de que las dos niñas que fallecieron fue por atropello de los servicios de emergencia. No cita fuentes y no he encontrado ningun reporte oficial. De que manera se puede comprobar o descartar esto?
Tengo entendido que os cuerpos fueron encontrados fuera del fuselaje y esto significaría que fueron expulsados del avión en el impacto y esta la teoría de que los cuerpos de rescate no vieron por lo menos a una y la atropellaron cosa que suena triste pero probable.
 

JSALVA

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Momento del accidente captado en video

Una mejor vista del momento del accidente captado en video. En un post anterior ya se presentó como lo mostró CNN, creo que en este se aprecia mejor.

[YOUTUBE]XTRGAzPD4uk[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTRGAzPD4uk

Esta pregunta va para pilotos miembros de ese foro, si la tripulación del 747 que está cerca del lugar del accidente y que sin lugar a dudas fueron los testigos más cercanos al mismo, escucharon la declaración de emergencia del 777 de Asiana, de acuerdo a la carga de trabajo en cabina en el momento de la espera ¿hay alguna posibilidad de que hayan filmado algo?.

Saludos
 
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